Gravity Separation & Concentration Methods

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Fine Gold Recovery from Placers (8 replies)

Bob Mathias
1 year ago
Bob Mathias 1 year ago

When it comes to very fine gold recovery in alluvial operations where throughput volume and continuity are very important, what are the top priorities to consider?
How important are say Corey factors, make up of host gravel/sands, gold finesse, clear vs. turbid water source, etc in determining the ultimate gravity based recovery plant design that can deal with copious throughput without using chemicals/mercury?
With 140 to 300 mesh gold, where are most losses occurring and can anyone point to any studies on the problem, or any published remedies implemented that materially reduced losses?

I keep coming across professionals who seriously defend their conclusions that material percentages of fine gold are wasted at every stage in alluvial operations, but have not found any consistent direction everyone would go to when trying to remedy such losses.

Is it then a case that limitations in the ways current equipment make use of physics and hydrodynamics to win gold are simply insurmountable outside the lab environment or economically not viable?

Apart from the wider industry not having much time for alluvial gold, does the alluvial gold community consider the 140- mesh gold to be impractical to capture? To put it another way, are there any examples of gravity based plants that have invested successfully in capturing a very high percentage of their 140- gold?

Unterstarm
1 year ago
Unterstarm 1 year ago

Alluvial deposits are very tricky, and volumes never big, I think all you need is a scrubber plant followed by fine screening at say 150 micron.

Rotaspiral screens are economic and efficient, you will need a water cleaning system, and the new Itomacs are pretty economic and efficient separating at low micron sizes using clean water.

If you want to design a small mobile plant, then I can suggest some design companies with real good affordable experienced engineering skills.

Bill Rico
1 year ago
Bill Rico 1 year ago

106 micron gold (140 mesh), depending upon shape, other mineral SGs, slurry viscosity and equipment operation, is readily recoverable in all gravity devices including jigs. Indeed, jigs are good down to 53 microns (270 mesh) and lower however recovery does fall away.

It is the finer size fractions (<53 microns) that can be more troublesome to recover and spirals, tables, etc. have been used with success. Even flotation, if the gold surfaces are clean, can be useful.

As an extreme example, in the recovery of alluvial tin (cassiterite), which is much lighter than gold (SG of -7.1 cf. 19.3), using a flowsheet with primary sluices/secondary and tertiary jigs/ quaternary tables, recovering 106 micron particles is not a problem and 'good' recoveries down to 37 microns (400 mesh) are routinely achieved. 

Bob Mathias
1 year ago
Bob Mathias 1 year ago

Agreed, I guess the issue and the main trade off are between handling the copious volumes and feed rates versus trying to maximise recovery of the lower fractions. Your ore should tell you what is worthwhile and practically no project is the same as another, making this whole business that much more convoluted.

Flotation, in its traditional form, will be rather difficult to work with when you are dealing with low tenors of free gold, and of course you would pass the ore through a traditional gravity circuit to recover a very high percentage of up to 140 mesh, so the rest of the fractions should either have to be a material percentage of the overall grades otherwise you are in a worse situation than needles in massive haystacks.

Can anyone list all possible ways of recovering alluvial gold known to have been used?

OberstGruppen
1 year ago
OberstGruppen 1 year ago

Can't agree that alluvial projects do have large volumes! Our Kapuas project has a resource of some 25 million m3, approximate dimensions 7kms (length) x 350m (average width), and 12-13m (average thickness). All lying beneath some 10m of slowly flowing water! (No "overburden"). We could have another 2 or 3 similar prospects in our second exploration area a little further downstream, where we have 70 kms of river under exploration permit! Huge potential!

Oberstorm
1 year ago
Oberstorm 1 year ago

There are well documented methods to recover fine particle alluvial gold, but you have to consider more factors than just recovering all the gold.

For example, in large scale refining of catalytic materials such as car converters, the most cost effective and processing time method is to use a submersible arc furnace. However you only recover about 70% of the values using this process. You could use leaching techniques to recover in upwards of 90% but it is time consuming. As the processes you use become more complex, more labour is required to recover higher percentages.

When dreaming new processes to recover more precious metals, we often don't consider the cost involved because usually chemists and metallurgists are not considering the business, profit end of the equation. With that being said you could utilize electrolytic processes and/or material scavengers to recover really fine gold for example. But these processes are not often used in large scale operations for the reasons stated above.

The reason why old mining tailings do contain fine gold is because it was never cost effective to attempt to recover those values. It wasn't until fairly recently in history that precious metals were worth enough to even bother.

Bob Mathias
1 year ago
Bob Mathias 1 year ago

What are the most efficient jigs for recovering fine and very fine gold, in the knowledge that gold particles do not exceed 0.25mm? Under what arrangement would they be able to handle 50 m3 of classified material at -3/8''.

Would it instead pay off to classify further before reporting to the jigs, say down to 1/32'', and if so are multi-deck vibrating screens the best method to do so?

Oberstorm
1 year ago
Oberstorm 1 year ago

If you are serious about altering or starting any type was plant, you should really pay to have a consultant/engineer to draw up the plans. There are so many variables with source material, per processing perhaps, even flow rates and angles of wash plants needs to be considered. If you really want to design the best process for your material at your location you really should hire a professional that has experience in this field.

Bob Mathias
1 year ago
Bob Mathias 1 year ago

We are indeed doing that. Beyond the knowledge and experience you get by hiring one professional, forum like this may provide different ideas to consider, debate and try in practice. I think starting this forum was probably the best thing you can do. Many people ask the same question, and leveraging their input is valuable. There is a lot of common sense in the above comments and some great rules of thumb.

Remember what you are trying to do - separate a particle that is very small and consider the variables of: shape factor, settling rate, residence time within the concentrator, slurry viscosity, size distribution of gangue minerals, SG of gangue, and throughput rate versus efficiency. There MAY or MAY NOT be an economic solution to the problem with existing technology. It’s your job to use the experts in the industry (through forms discussions, network buddies, or paid consultants) to find out the solution. Look up the work on air sparged hydrocyclone for the recovery of fine gold by flotation. There was a paper written in the 90's on recovery of gold from placer deposits on the Colorado River.

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