Pyrometallurgy: Roasting, Smelting, Refining & Electrowinning

Pyrometallurgy: Roasting, Smelting, Refining & Electrowinning

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Started by johnywhy
This question concerns the making of alloys for casting. I need a low-toxicity, low-melting point metal, to cast hardware parts. The parts must not crack under torque or impact, and should remain hard up to 100 deg C. My plan is to make a Tin/Bism...
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Last replied to by Jorge
It is important to mention that bismuth has a special property of expanding during cooling. Therefore, is added to reduce the contraction of the alloy tin-bismuth. Also, the addition of bismuth is mad...
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Started by WildWestMining
Hello, I am an artisnal miner in northern Arizona and am having trouble fluxing a sulfide ore. The ore is composed mainly of arsenopyrite, pyrite, galena, and polybasite. There is minor barite present as well. The ore was crushed to 150 micron and ca...
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Last replied to by DAlchemist
how much sulfur and arsenic are we talking about here? Percentages?
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Started by Teggry
Hi, Why is Lead Nitrate put into the Electrowinning cell before the electrowinning starts. What is its purpose? The Met said it was just to make the operators job easier but did not need to be done.
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Last replied to by CharMet
We are conquering a plating issue with our gravity circuit EW and told about adding Lead Nitrate. However, this is the only place online I have found it mentioned. Does anyone have any sources for thi...
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Started by BUBKWEY
I have some tons of old Carbon that I keep in my store room after Elution.  Their grade isn't economical enough to take them all for other Elution processes.  May I please know the details of controlled burning, which kind of heat source is the b...
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Last commented on by BUBKWEY
Thanks Jorge.. The info in the link was a great mind opener to me..
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Started by Mista
I have a pregnant solution with grade 4 ppm. we send big amount of pregnant solution to activated carbon ,when we burn carbon and melt the ash we didn’t get gold ? can I get some help to solve this problem?
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Last commented on by BUBKWEY
May you please explain more on the ion exchange method that could be used in this task?
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Started by mikewj
Anyone have a rule of thumb on how often the activated carbon inventory should be turned over through elution/regen in a gold CIL/P plant? I've heard 7 days. 
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Started by oro
I’m wondering if I’m in the ballpark with this and how scaleable it might be. 2.5 L of solution1% cyanide1% sodium hydroxide2% alcohol - 700g of activated carbon w/ aprox 2-3 g of gold- carbon is wrapped in mosquito netting- anode is a carbon /...
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Last replied to by oro
Next day update...unfortunately the whole thing evaporated overnight! ...but seems like it worked, nice gold wool. I assume a single vessel to heat and electrowin can only be done using non conductive...
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Started by Rashid
Hello Guys, How can I increase Gold Purity during smelting by using ratio of fluxes, Currently I'm experiencing high silver in dore with low Gold purity. Fluxes Ratio used; Borax - 38% Silica - 10% Soda - 3% Nitre - 6% 
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Last replied to by rushcard1
Rashid:  I don't believe you are going to achieve what you want by adjusting the fluxes, although I am not an expert on them.  I do know you can spin your wheels with numerous experiments that deal ...
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Started by Eagle788
Hello guys, I have absolutely no knowledge of the fascinating science of metallurgy. I do however am a student in history. Im more particularily trying to establish the authenticity of an ancient story in which there is mention of a large wall made ...
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Last replied to by BATALEUR
This seems very crude of course but I don't see too many metallurgical issues with it although the strength of the wall and it's stability might be an issue. Assuming they were making cast iron it wou...
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Started by MrTMBjewelry
Hello, My wife and I have been in the jewelry industry for several years, from manufacturing, personalizing, packaging, website, branding, and marketing of our own company and line of jewelry. The ups and downs of our retail business have led me to...
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Last replied to by Dave Tahija
Manhattan Gold & Silver Buys a lot of jewelers sweeps and scrap: https://www.mgsrefining.com/gold-refining-process/    
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Started by vaheedghassemy
Hello all I want to add guar to electrolyte of copper and sulfuric acide then start to electrowinning but i dont knew how much add guar to electrolyte please help me. thanks
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Last replied to by rbtmiller0@gmail.com
Below link takes you to an article that indicates 240 g/t of cathode. It is a place to start. https://books.google.cl/books?id=qp0hWKleKwcC&pg=PA182&lpg=PA182&dq=goma+guar+electrowinning&source=bl&o...
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Started by vaheedghassemy
hello friends  I want to measure the concentration of copper in the electrolyte and PLS but i dont know how i can do that .please help me  thanks a lot
Last replied to by Mike
Your question can be answered several ways, depending on what you are actually looking for.  The basic topic is covered by metallurgical accounting, where generally recognized formula are used to mea...
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Started by ToddLaw
I've got a mine with sulfides in my ore. For reasons unrelated I haven't been running my ore for 22 years. I used to burn my ore with a Beckett oil burner in a contained environment and extract the output with water. The sulfides would ignite in the ...
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Last replied to by Siddiquf
ToddLaw, if your sulphide ore has been exposed to elements for 22 years, the sulphides may have been oxidized, at least on surface of each grain, and therefore may not be combustible any more irrespec...
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Started by DieselDave
I'm a micro miner and have zinc / silver ore, also has gold in arsenopyrite. I'm wondering how to micro scale extract the silver without froth flotation, arsenic?
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Last replied to by Jose Doneiber
Hello my dear friend. In Colombia there are argentiferous minerals and I have observed that the most indicated method is to first float the ore then leach it with cyanide, you can do it on a small sc...
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Started by sajjadaghazadeh
can someone help me with chunks problems in iron ore pellets in rotary kilns? thanks so much.
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Last replied to by RayMartin
What do you require to know?  Why they form? How to remove? I would need some ifnrmation about your process or plant.  
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Started by Cl.BrINHOF
While electrorefining in a CuSO4 electrolyte (Cu anode to SS blank) what are the roles of additives (thiourea, glue, salt) in relation to bubble formation? More specifically, is there any evidence to support the claim that the potential to create mor...
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Last commented on by Cl.BrINHOF
Thank you. I appreciate your response.
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Started by leonard
  how do you seperate fine gold loaded activated carbon from pulp?    
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Last replied to by rob riggir
Try coal flotation techniques as filtration will not work as both the pulp and carbon particle sizes will likely be similar. Cheers
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Started by jovanifirebird
hello metallurgists. we have had an issue of importing HCL to our gold processing plant. delivery date is getting delayed. however, we do have stocks of 55% H2O2 in our site. do you think it is possible to replace HCl with 55% H2O2 for carbon washing...
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Last commented on by Teggry
Good answer Mark
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Started by FranLaraMonge
I am Francisco Lara Monge, peruvian chemical engineer working in a flotation plant in Ecuador. Few days ago, for second time, we have a bigbag, with low grade concéntrate, which have violent reaction producing SO2, high temperature 250°C, and with ...
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Last replied to by Richard S
My first best guess is that you have pyrrhotite in your concentrate.  It is known for spontaneously combusting at ambient temperatures particularly if there is moisture present in the concentrate.  ...
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Started by zwivhuya
i would like assist on how i can remove silver metal from an ionic insoluble silver chloride.
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Last replied to by inOr
Cyanide leaching extracts silver from sulfide ores.  I don't know how well it works on silver chloride, though. If it works, then there are several methods for recovering metallic silver from the cy...
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Started by oro
For batch leach samples - instead of stripping the AC I was wondering if it can be smelted, maybe with a bit of litharge as a collector and some borax to slag off contaminants.  I understand the carbon can be “ashed” in an electric muffle furnac...
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Last replied to by oro
Rob, So...ash / smelt in the same vessel and furnace, an elegant solution.  thank you!            
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Started by chemgla68
I have been using a traditional muffle style furnace for years and am looking to speed up the process by switching over to an induction furnace. My question is this - does an induction furnace lower the overall hi temp needed to process ores containi...
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Last replied to by Nije
I run five different sized induction furnaces starting at 2 kgs and working their way up to 500 kgs and the one thing I know is that its almost impossible to hold the temperature steady. It is possibl...
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Started by
Have been told there are ways to use certain chemicals to help break down black sands, then cook it and kiln it to make a Dore bead. Have sands with gold, silver and platinum but is very fine and is attached in the sand unless it is ground up.  Any ...
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What chemical do you use for the bio leaching process? You can give a call or text if you don't want to post to the world 307-272-9814. Have another guy says Clorox and table salt will pop open and ...
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Started by H.OK
Hi, I am currently doing a study on the reuse of concrete (to avoid landfill) and I am looking for applications within the mining industry. Smelting is one option, as the heat would allow for any contaminants within the concrete to be destroyed in t...
Last replied to by bernhards
https://www.slimbreker.nl/smartcrusher.html Something like this? A dutch company recycles on site, and so on.
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Started by paulbwalya
We will be producing an alloy with the following specs Cu 76% Ni 0.42% Pb 12% Ag 1.53% Au 10% I am looking at electro refining of this alloy and treating the slimes for gold recovery. any though of the idea and suppliers for small scale El...
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Last replied to by hjkim
leaching Copper for elctrowinning washing residue TBOC BBOC elctrorefining Ag Electrorefining Au
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Started by Gold Fox
What would be the ideal process to recover Gold from sulphides once I have concentrates, I have read that roasting first and second smelting it directly with Chapman flux? it is a non leaching process. I am looking also for best way to get free gold...
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Last commented on by Gold Fox
Thanks Renatomerino for your comments, it is very helpful..!
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Started by CA
We built and operate a 100kg zadra/zadra with alchohol stripping system that we have used successfully for a a while now. We recently began (trying) to strip carbon from a non-cyanide leach pilot plant and are unable to elute the gold from the carbo...
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Deano, Well, all of a sudden the gold is coming off of the carbon and we are getting excellent stripping results. We are not doing a pre-hydrochloric wash and are using a 10% ethanol, 12g/l NaOH, an...
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Started by doum
I need a way to extract the gold from those rock....i need it simple because it is for pleasure...THANKS! I've try to crush it, roast it,and melt it whit Chapman flux (2 part of flux for 1 of materiel) for 1hrs in my propane furnace but the only thi...
Last replied to by David
What you are hoping to do, directly on rock, is not something the heavy mining industry normally does. It's nothing I know much about for sure. Try this maybe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGaCQY...
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Started by Scotman
I have a supply of high grade (+50gm/t) wood chip ash, as well as a supply of loaded carbon fines. What would the process be to recover the gold from these products?  Is there a pyromet process that one could undertake, and then leach the gold? 
Last replied to by David
Did you see https://www.911metallurgist.com/pyrometallurgy/ashing-of-gold-activated-carbon-and-its-recovery/
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Started by hulk
HI; In our plant we noticed a massive corrosion   of electrolysis cells anodes ; however, we comply with all Operations instructions: pH> 12; 1-2% NaOH.We suspect the presence of chlorides from the acid wash.Is there any process that would allo...
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Last commented on by Cadia Systems
Be aware the pH requirement is to maintain above pH > 12.6 and this should always be measured by titration and not the use of a pH probe. Chlorides will attack the grain boundaries of your anodes ...
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Started by mohammed_tawfik
And could i use a zadra cells for one tone of active carbon ? Which pregnant solution does it work on ? does it work  after the active carbon or don't  require active carbon stage ? What is the recovery rate of the cell ? o...
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Last replied to by mohammed_tawfik
Procedures. Inorganic Concentration: Lead - AcidReagentsC Granulated lead: + 10 mesh - (screened test lead may be used)C Concentrated HClC Lead Foil (7.5 cm x 7.5 cm)C Ag for inquartation (AgNO3, soli...
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Started by mohammed_tawfik
i ask about gold pairing carbon  if i want to get the gold  from the carbon by smelting , do i smelt the carbon directly or their is another method ?  
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Last commented on by mohammed_tawfik
so i need a muffled furnace , the carbon column is about one tone you suggest ashing every batch then smelt it
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Started by Vishnu patel
i would like to know the process and some technical details to process copper metal with recovering of gold by electrowinning, could any please suggest how to start with....is it possible to recover gold from electrowinning of copper metal (dross or ...
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Last replied to by Yves
I would Prepare an electrolyte made of copper sulphate and sulphuric acid then contact the ingot on the + side with a graphite rod and the - on a stainless steel plate using a high DC current. The cop...
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Started by clyde
Hello,I'm a junior geologist and I have a few questions concerning the fire assay fusion that labs use to determine Au concentration.If I have a gold ore associated with Quartz SiO2, since quartz's melting point is around 1700°C and the fire-a...
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Last commented on by Siddiquf
If gold is trapped inside sulphides, for example pyrite, roasting the ore sample.at +600 degrees C, followed by Fire Assay can give a correct result.
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Started by johnobioma
how to smelt pure copper from the concentrate
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Last replied to by mkasebake
Consider the following.. Type of concentrate (e,g. Chalcopyrite, chalcocite, Bonite, etc.) You will need to know the quality of the concentrate, specifically the oxides present and their melting poi...

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